David Moss started in IT in 1977 when it was still called DP. Over the course of 30 years he designed, coded, tested, documented, trained the users in and maintained about 50 applications including the fixed income systems used by Shearson Lehman’s traders and salesmen in London. Not many people know this but in the process he invented object-oriented programming and agile systems engineering. Then he invented dematerialised ID, campaigned against the introduction of government-issued ID cards in the UK, told the world that the biometrics emperor has nothing to wear and wrote Have you ever had breakfast with Sophia Loren?, a play about artificial intelligence which someone might stage one day. Convinced that GOV.UK Verify (RIP) is a masterly work of absurdist theatre, the question is what comes next. That’s why we’re all at today’s conference. To answer that question.